Tomatoes Posted May 21, 2008 Report Posted May 21, 2008 The storyline has the same flaws as vice city. With the end game kill count at about 700 Niko Bellic should be the most wanted man in the U.S. You are constantly outnumbered in every mission and you come out alive and nobody seems suprised about it. Atleast GTA 4 added the fact that he used to be a soldier but an army soldier isn't the most highly trained specialist in the world and even if they were a 700 kill count is ridiculous. There are missions where you and a single accomplice battle through thirty mobsters and your accomplice seems hardly suprised you both came out alive. You are striving the entire game to fulfill the american dream, and in the end you're still just an errand boy for the mob. There's nothing to do with your money at the end of the game, no houses to buy or anything. The most expensive thing you can buy is a rocket launcher which you get for free in one mission and the ammunition for it, at 5 grand per rocket. I finished the game with 700k and im wondering why the game bothered giving me money at all. You never get any better abode then a moderately luxurious penthouse for free, and you never get a house. Also, every mission you are sent to overlook a deal that "might" go bad, it always does. Usually you are under attack from a small army with a "good job, here's five grand" when you single handedly wipe them all out. And although it's a small thing, i found it anoying how many of the mobsters you fight say stuff like "look around buddy, you're surrounded" when you clearly aren't, having killed everyone to get there and with a clear escape route behind you. Apart from all that, I'm liking the driving now. It's not easy and unrealistic like vice city and san andreas, it's actually fun, and although I don't really care the graphics are pretty good. Multiplayer is pretty fun too, there's some really fun game types and a ranking system similar to halo, and there's also a free roam mode so you can just get into huge cop chases with your friends firing out the windows. The guns are fine-tuned now, the rocket actually spirals like a real rocket and the explosions look ausome. The radio is again hilarious but theres hardly any good music. Really, the most fun I got out of this game was the screwing around with friends in free roam and deathmatches. If you're buying it for the campaign, don't bother getting the game. Don't even bother beating the campaign if you already have the game. It's long and tedious, (reminds me of the halo 3 campaign) just beat it if you want the achievements or you're really bored one day. It would be worth beating the campaign if only they put something to buy with your money, all the side missions are pointless with nothing to do with the money you earn. The campaign was a step backwards, i'm hoping they release some mansions you can buy with a downloadable update. I give the game 7.5/10.
Curtis Posted May 21, 2008 Report Posted May 21, 2008 Oh ouch... Good thing your not harsh. Seeing as that game sites that haven't given a game a 10/10 in years, gave the game 10/10.
subs_55 Posted May 21, 2008 Report Posted May 21, 2008 i agree with some of that but disagree with others. i think it was a bit harsh, but valad point were made. in the end it all depends on personal opinion.
fattwam Posted May 22, 2008 Report Posted May 22, 2008 i agree with it , for the most partbut it could have been better
Tomatoes Posted May 22, 2008 Author Report Posted May 22, 2008 Oh ouch... Good thing your not harsh. Seeing as that game sites that haven't given a game a 10/10 in years, gave the game 10/10. Have you even played the game? The campaign was a waste of time, I didnt feel fulfilled at all. There was no end game, save for some side missions for yet more useless money. After all your killing Niko's just like "I'm done now" and the game ends. The missions were completely unimaginative and unreasonable. The best hitman in the world would consider himself lucky to have survived any of the missions in the later part of the game, and you're still just an errand boy. Your only goals in the game are the american dream and confronting the guy who killed all your friends, and even when that happens it's retarted and disapointing. Nothing you set out to do gets done and then the game ends. I gave it 7.5 because driving is fun, multiplayer is fun, and shooting is more refined. That doesn't earn it 10/10. A game that earns 10/10 doesn't make you want 30 hours of your life back. They took out some of the things that made the series great for completely no reason. It feels like they had to really rush a deadline, cut the story off short, skipped the endgame stuff completely and released the game. Kind of like anything in life...Way to fill your post count.
Curtis Posted May 22, 2008 Report Posted May 22, 2008 Oh ouch... Good thing your not harsh. Seeing as that game sites that haven't given a game a 10/10 in years, gave the game 10/10. Have you even played the game? The campaign was a waste of time, I didnt feel fulfilled at all. There was no end game, save for some side missions for yet more useless money. After all your killing Niko's just like "I'm done now" and the game ends. The missions were completely unimaginative and unreasonable. The best hitman in the world would consider himself lucky to have survived any of the missions in the later part of the game, and you're still just an errand boy. Your only goals in the game are the american dream and confronting the guy who killed all your friends, and even when that happens it's retarted and disapointing. Nothing you set out to do gets done and then the game ends. I gave it 7.5 because driving is fun, multiplayer is fun, and shooting is more refined. That doesn't earn it 10/10. A game that earns 10/10 doesn't make you want 30 hours of your life back. They took out some of the things that made the series great for completely no reason. It feels like they had to really rush a deadline, cut the story off short, skipped the endgame stuff completely and released the game. Kind of like anything in life...Way to fill your post count. Okay b**** watch it. I was making my point about opinions... KIND OF LIKE REAL LIFE. What else should i say? Mr. Allmighty. I love the game. I think the story is amazing. Alot better than the others. I think your missing the point... It is a game... NOT A $%#^%# SIM. The best hitman would never survive... I know that. Think that him dying after a few missions would be fun?? Oh yes... IM a hitman... Game over. THink about it... "Nthing you set out to do gets done and then the game ends." Oh? Kind of like how he didn't expect america to be what it was... "That doesn't earn it 10/10. A game that earns 10/10 doesn't make you want 30 hours of your life back. They took out some of the things that made the series great for completely no reason. It feels like they had to really rush a deadline, cut the story off short, skipped the endgame stuff completely and released the game." What do you expect? Real life? This is a game remember that. The game is very large... Its not like they could fit much else on it... We are limited with the amount of space we have. And alot of game sites gave it a 10/10 because its perfect for what we have right now. You can only go so far with a dual layer disk. Dont tell me how to fill my post count... Most people know i hate post count. I do not respect someone for their post count. Don't try and tell me what to do... please. I don't stand for that.... That's why you got called a b****. So anything else you want to add to this? I love to argue. Please keep it up. Seriously. Bye.
fattwam Posted May 22, 2008 Report Posted May 22, 2008 don't start arguments on the site its all pointlessin the end its up to personal opinionif this continues both get a warning, continues further a 1 day ban
yungbol Posted May 22, 2008 Report Posted May 22, 2008 I agree with your opinion completely, the game could have and should have been a little bit better
Tomatoes Posted May 22, 2008 Author Report Posted May 22, 2008 Ill take my warning. I love the game. I think the story is amazing. Alot better than the others. I think your missing the point... It is a game... NOT A *&@#@@ SIM.They made stupid mistakes with the story. They tell you what happened, they don't show you. It disconnects you from the character. You are Niko while you play the game, you should feel like you are him as much as possible. The best hitman would never survive... I know that. Think that him dying after a few missions would be fun?? Oh yes... IM a hitman... Game over. THink about it...I'm saying maybe one man pitted against a drug dealer and fourty armed guards is slightly ridiculous. It could be possible to pick him off with a sniper and haul ass out of there, or maybe just less guards. Maybe you could have your own small army of guys. It's incredibly boring creeping around every corner as slow as possible making sure one guy doesn't jump out from behind something and you have to do the whole mission over again. Another rookie mistake, there shouldn't be ways to die you couldn't have known were there untill you die from it. That's just boring. "Nthing you set out to do gets done and then the game ends." Oh? Kind of like how he didn't expect america to be what it was...Right, nothing was how you expected it. So you go on a murderous rampage of a quest to fix that, and then the game ends, your revenge got you nothing, your down a girlfriend, you don't have a mansion or alot of money (in the story anyways), so you're back where you started. Good thing Niko killed those 700 people or he might still be living in an apartment and his cousin still would be poor. "That doesn't earn it 10/10. A game that earns 10/10 doesn't make you want 30 hours of your life back. They took out some of the things that made the series great for completely no reason. It feels like they had to really rush a deadline, cut the story off short, skipped the endgame stuff completely and released the game." What do you expect? Real life? This is a game remember that.Oh, it's not real life. Thanks for the pro tip. The fact is that vice city and san andreas were both way more fun then this game. This game is a step backwards in the series, it should have MORE to do, not less. There is space left on the disk and making a few buyable houses wouldn't be hard or take up much disk room. They already have strip joints, fast food restaurants, gun stores and more they could have made buyable, make the cooks and clerks and stuff refer to you as boss one way or another, an occasional revenue to pick up and a back room with stuff in it or something. Imagine how much more fun the game would be with that stuff. I haven't even played the game since I beat it. The same couldn't be said for san andreas, vice city, and probably GTA 3 aswell (I haven't played GTA 3). Even if space was so constricted they couldn't fit a mansion on it, I would be fine with toned down graphics for an upgrade in gameplay. I can't see anyone disagreeing with that.
Valid Posted May 23, 2008 Report Posted May 23, 2008 hmmm, i actually like the campaign, and think the multiplayer is what disapointed me. But, I like playing campaign, I liked halo3's campaign too (and still do). It probobly will get boring at the end fi you have that much money, but where im at the mpney is pretty balanced. I wouldn't give it a 10/10 though maybe a 8.5 to 9. And DLC should make it alot better!!
Curtis Posted May 23, 2008 Report Posted May 23, 2008 Ill take my warning. I love the game. I think the story is amazing. Alot better than the others. I think your missing the point... It is a game... NOT A *&@#@@ SIM.They made stupid mistakes with the story. They tell you what happened, they don't show you. It disconnects you from the character. You are Niko while you play the game, you should feel like you are him as much as possible. The best hitman would never survive... I know that. Think that him dying after a few missions would be fun?? Oh yes... IM a hitman... Game over. THink about it...I'm saying maybe one man pitted against a drug dealer and fourty armed guards is slightly ridiculous. It could be possible to pick him off with a sniper and haul ass out of there, or maybe just less guards. Maybe you could have your own small army of guys. It's incredibly boring creeping around every corner as slow as possible making sure one guy doesn't jump out from behind something and you have to do the whole mission over again. Another rookie mistake, there shouldn't be ways to die you couldn't have known were there untill you die from it. That's just boring. "Nthing you set out to do gets done and then the game ends." Oh? Kind of like how he didn't expect america to be what it was...Right, nothing was how you expected it. So you go on a murderous rampage of a quest to fix that, and then the game ends, your revenge got you nothing, your down a girlfriend, you don't have a mansion or alot of money (in the story anyways), so you're back where you started. Good thing Niko killed those 700 people or he might still be living in an apartment and his cousin still would be poor. "That doesn't earn it 10/10. A game that earns 10/10 doesn't make you want 30 hours of your life back. They took out some of the things that made the series great for completely no reason. It feels like they had to really rush a deadline, cut the story off short, skipped the endgame stuff completely and released the game." What do you expect? Real life? This is a game remember that.Oh, it's not real life. Thanks for the pro tip. The fact is that vice city and san andreas were both way more fun then this game. This game is a step backwards in the series, it should have MORE to do, not less. There is space left on the disk and making a few buyable houses wouldn't be hard or take up much disk room. They already have strip joints, fast food restaurants, gun stores and more they could have made buyable, make the cooks and clerks and stuff refer to you as boss one way or another, an occasional revenue to pick up and a back room with stuff in it or something. Imagine how much more fun the game would be with that stuff. I haven't even played the game since I beat it. The same couldn't be said for san andreas, vice city, and probably GTA 3 aswell (I haven't played GTA 3). Even if space was so constricted they couldn't fit a mansion on it, I would be fine with toned down graphics for an upgrade in gameplay. I can't see anyone disagreeing with that. Don't tell me what to think... or to post. I belive i fill my post count just fine. Just remember its a game friend. And i like this game alot more than Vice city and San. This game has some realism. I respect you for putting up a good fight. And if your going to ban me for making my point Fattwam... Then thats your choice but i don't agree. I think that would be pretty low if you gave us warning... Who are we hurting?
fattwam Posted May 23, 2008 Report Posted May 23, 2008 lockedlike i said in the end , its up to personal opinion
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