Lets talk religion/belief

[mangriff32]

You make a good argument but there are so many flaws to it that I'm sure you can think of. I'm sure you think the same.

lol. Both religion and science are flawed. That's life.

[Monkeyman157]

If u have read the bible before there always has been God he was not "born".(oh and can a mod remove that monkeyman's post? i find it offensive) Big bang theory doesnt make sense, it states that at one point that the ENTIRE UNIVERSE was once a super dense point, ok then what would have surrounded this "point"? Evolution is being proved false very often, like the animals found in the amazon believed to have been extint for thousands to millions of years ago. If we were once monkeys then why haven't the other species evolved nearly as fast as ours? And then how does that explain races? natural selection pshhhh

Maybe It offends me that you dont beleive in Science. I mean "god" wasn't the one that made your computer, Really in a topic like this all there is is flame. I don't agree with what u say, You dont agree with what I say so.... And Dont FLame Darwin, His work was very important to us.

Edited May 17, 2009 by Monkeyman157

[7331loser]

Maybe It offends me that you dont beleive in Science. I mean "god" wasn't the one that made your computer, Really in a topic like this all there is is flame. I don't agree with what u say, You dont agree with what I say so.... And Dont FLame Darwin, His work was very important to us.

OK, not trying to be an "asshalo" but... If this thread is doomed to flame, DOnt sit here and argue over wats right's and wat's wrong. If u say Ur Christian, Then u R we know whats that means u beleive in. SO Please dont duke it out here and destroy a Great Thread.

[T3A guy]

OK, not trying to be an "asshalo" but... If this thread is doomed to flame, DOnt sit here and argue over wats right's and wat's wrong. If u say Ur Christian, Then u R we know whats that means u beleive in. SO Please dont duke it out here and destroy a Great Thread.

Amen

[RROD]

If u have read the bible before there always has been God he was not "born".(oh and can a mod remove that monkeyman's post? i find it offensive) Big bang theory doesnt make sense, it states that at one point that the ENTIRE UNIVERSE was once a super dense point, ok then what would have surrounded this "point"? Evolution is being proved false very often, like the animals found in the amazon believed to have been extint for thousands to millions of years ago. If we were once monkeys then why haven't the other species evolved nearly as fast as ours? And then how does that explain races? natural selection pshhhh

If you Listen in your science class you will learn that we HAVE NOT evolved quickly. Sure if you look at the "EARTH YEAR" Humans do not appear until Dec.30 at about 5 mins from midnight. But that 5 mins is equal to about 20,000-30,000 years. SO saying we evolved quickly would be false. To correct your statement," Then why have other specices not evloved to be intelligent?" We are not Intelligent either, we've had a lucky break, THE THUMB! Sure modern primates have thumbs they probbaly aquired them through imbredding or evolution. We have had this break longer though.

[T3A guy]

Our brains are 4 times the size of a monkeys also.

[mangriff32]

Our brains are 4 times the size of a monkeys also.

Thats because we were first to develop a higher intelligence. Obviously, intelligence would benefit the survival of the organism, so the trait would be passed down continually until the majority of the population is intelligent.

 

Also, people this thread is going to be full of flaming, thats what happens when you talk about a controversial topic, especially this, we're dealing with the creation of the universe and how all this came to be, obviously we don't all agree so this large topic is going to get a large amount of flaming.

 

Chill yourselves.

Edited May 17, 2009 by mangriff32

[Monkeyman157]

Our brains are 4 times the size of a monkeys also.

So a sperm whale's brain is about 4 times larger than ours, But we are more intelligent. Size means nothing in evolution- We Humans are dominant but we are not the largest, Fastest or most intelligent. While we use what intelligence we have usefully, we are NOT, repeat NOT! the most intelligent. As someone earlier said.

[TheEazyB]

to the comment about DNA, we share DNA with almost everything.

Although one thing I have noticed from this topic is that the non religious people have shown faith in the African roots of humanity, versus the religious people denying this claim. Anyone else smell a hint of colonialism?

 

Another question for debate: How come monkeys don't change anymore?

Edited May 18, 2009 by TheEazyB

[mangriff32]

to the comment about DNA, we share DNA with almost everything.

Although one thing I have noticed from this topic is that the non religious people have shown faith in the African roots of humanity, versus the religious people denying this claim. Anyone else smell a hint of colonialism?

 

Another question for debate: How come monkeys don't change anymore?

We share DNA with everything because we all are related to an early proto-cell.

Monkeys do change, a population evolves not an individual. If you go a 1,000 years into the future, monkeys will not be the same as they are now, you may not be able to notice it, but something in the population will cause them to survive better and the genotype for that will start to spread in the population making them different from the ones today.

[Slidell]

This topic is still up? Edited May 18, 2009 by GMOF Slidell♥

[DarkRuler]

I think if there is a "god", he/she would have just started the Big Bang when the Universe was started. Then everything just fell like dominoes. And "God" just watches everything like TV, he/she can't change what is happening, but can just enjoy the show

[Slidell]

I think if there is a "god", he/she would have just started the Big Bang when the Universe was started. Then everything just fell like dominoes. And "God" just watches everything like TV, he/she can't change what is happening, but can just enjoy the show

 

 

Finally someone who understands the pain!

 

Yeah that's pretty much the same for me.

[Pargy]

Evolution is being proved false very often

 

orly?

 

How do you think swine flu came about? do you think god just made it to **** with us?

 

Seriously, People dont know everything, just because someone found a species thought to be extinct doesnt disprove evolution, it just means humans are incapable of knowing everything. Which means evolution might not be true, but its a much more reasonable explanation then some magical invisible being made everything.

[TheEazyB]

They say swine flu is a mutation of influenza, at the same time a new variant of flu is out every year. Which raises the question, are mutated humans further evolved than us others? Because basically the principle of evolution introduces a trait as mutation and it absorbs into the population of the species.

[PREPPY DIABLO]

DOG BACKWARDS IS GOD! DOGS ARE HOLY LOL.

 

But really that means even scientest (they name animals duh) believe in god!

[Xx Legacy xX]

people can believe in Chuck Norris if they want. you just insulted his religion.

[Monkeyman157]

You know that peice of bread you eat in the morning? It's more like you than you think. We share 50% of the genes we have with the food we eat! So your R what you eat! Litterally!

[T3A guy]

people can believe in Chuck Norris if they want. you just insulted his religion.

Thanks, I agree. It's not like I'm telling other people their religion is wrong. Those are the people who should be infracted, not me.

[7331loser]

Well, I guess you can't call me a true Atheist though. Because I do understand the Bibile, but I think like Greek mythology it was made to fill in gaps as to explain nature. For Example to in Greek mythology Apollo carries light across the sky. To us we figured out its a star. I beleive that "Hell" is a reference to the interior of the Earth. And Heaven the next Dimension. But thats just wat I beleive so.