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    #1 SmokiestGrunl

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    Posted 10 October 2010 - 06:05 AM

    Ok so here is the plan...

    I plan on building my own computer and then upgrading as the months go on. I need help on knowing if these components actually work together and if I should change the parts around. Also if there is a good online store that ships internationally please tell me.

    CPU - Intel i7-930 Core i7 CPU - currently I can't afford anything more as I need this PC before 7th December
    Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD9 MB LGA1366 - I'm getting this board so I can do a lot of upgrades, check out what I plan on upgrading
    GPU - GeForce GTS 250 - this is the GFX card from my old PC
    PSU - 1200W "Gigabyte" ODIN PRO Power Supply - again getting this for flexibility
    RAM - Geil 2 x 2GB Value DDR3 1333 Ram - correct me if I am wrong but the board only supports 2200/1333/1066/800?
    HDD - 500GB one from my old PC
    Case - Antec Nine Hundred Two


    The upgrades, I'll be grabing these when ever I have the cash to do so.

    - 24GB of RAM
    - 4-Way SLI Nvidia GF GTX 480 GPU
    - HDD - LOTS OF 2TBs
    - Intel i7-980X
    - Water Cooling and then overclocking

    Edited by SmokiestGrunl, 10 October 2010 - 06:05 AM.


    #2 Quinn

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    Posted 10 October 2010 - 10:50 AM

    Ok so here is the plan...

    I plan on building my own computer and then upgrading as the months go on. I need help on knowing if these components actually work together and if I should change the parts around. Also if there is a good online store that ships internationally please tell me.

    CPU - Intel i7-930 Core i7 CPU - currently I can't afford anything more as I need this PC before 7th December
    Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD9 MB LGA1366 - I'm getting this board so I can do a lot of upgrades, check out what I plan on upgrading
    GPU - GeForce GTS 250 - this is the GFX card from my old PC
    PSU - 1200W "Gigabyte" ODIN PRO Power Supply - again getting this for flexibility
    RAM - Geil 2 x 2GB Value DDR3 1333 Ram - correct me if I am wrong but the board only supports 2200/1333/1066/800?
    HDD - 500GB one from my old PC
    Case - Antec Nine Hundred Two


    The upgrades, I'll be grabing these when ever I have the cash to do so.

    - 24GB of RAM
    - 4-Way SLI Nvidia GF GTX 480 GPU
    - HDD - LOTS OF 2TBs
    - Intel i7-980X
    - Water Cooling and then overclocking


    Original build looks okay, although you really don't need the 1200w atm. Also, I'm not a huge fan of the 900 (take a look at the HAF X series).
    Now on to your upgrades:
    Lets Start with the 4 way SLI.

    Okay chaps, conclusion time. Quad SLI obviously makes no sense whatsoever. Heck it's even ridiculous if you'd opt it. Quad SLI at this time is not even supported in games, just 3DMark Vantage has official support. NVIDIA specifically released a driver just to do this, for the overclocking crowd. And guess what; I'm not pointing fingers at all as NVIDIA has been straightforward about this. It sucks though as I definitely would have liked to see some Quad GPU game scaling with this setup.


    They also mention how the system is bottlenecked by the CPU (The same 980x you plan to upgrade to).
    (http://www.guru3d.co...ay-sli-review/9)
    (http://www.engadget....of-diminishing/)
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    24GB of RAM is rather useless unless you are dealing with a massive amount of programs, rendering huge videos or working with pictures with massive resolutions.
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    Lots of 2TBs. Get watercooling, the high performance ones run hot hot hot ;) (I love lots of storage too :D)
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    980x. I wish I had one.
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    Water Cooling. This will set you back as much if not more than those 480s (if you still chose to get them). You will probably need a couple of these to effectively cool all that hardware.
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    Hope that helped some, ask away if you have questions ;)
    Edit: also, I forgot to mention, to do the Quad SLI with the 480s, you would need at least one 1500w PSU. And thats streching it, some hw sites used two seperate PSUs for their setup.

    Edited by Quinn, 10 October 2010 - 10:52 AM.


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    Posted 10 October 2010 - 12:53 PM

    I agree with most of quinn's post, quad sli is just a mega waste, i would do Dual, and for your motherborde i would get a rampage 3

    Edited by connorss, 10 October 2010 - 12:56 PM.


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    Posted 10 October 2010 - 01:02 PM

    I agree with most of quinn's post, quad sli is just a mega waste, i would do Dual, and for your motherborde i would get a rampage 3

    The Rampage 3 Extreme is good, but my problem with it is that it only has one PCI slot. Which is a problem for me, cause I have a wireless card and my VIA sata controller (for flashing 360s), which are both PCI. But thats just my bias, so it might be a great choice for Smokes. +1

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    Posted 10 October 2010 - 01:33 PM

    Ram and Video cards are overkill.

    I barely go above 40% of my RAM, and I have 6gb DDR3. (I run tons of programs)

    I'd put the money towards cooling and harddrives, and RAID. You want to backup your stuff.

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    Posted 10 October 2010 - 01:39 PM

    Ram and Video cards are overkill.

    I barely go above 40% of my RAM, and I have 6gb DDR3. (I run tons of programs)

    I'd put the money towards cooling and harddrives, and RAID. You want to backup your stuff.

    it all depends on what he does and how future proof he wants, I'm guessing he wants like 5-8 years out of this

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    Posted 10 October 2010 - 11:08 PM

    Here is my roll out plan:
    2GBs the first year and then 6 GB RAM then after for 4 years
    1 GPU every year for four years.
    1 HDD every 1-2 years
    i7-980X at the end of year 3
    Water cooling and over clocking at the end of year 4

    I'm taking what everyone has said into consideration and will post my end machine.

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    Posted 10 October 2010 - 11:54 PM

    KK heres the go happening.

    CPU: Intel Core i7 87
    MoBo: ASRock P55-Extreme4
    RAM: OCZ DDR3 PC3-12800 Intel Edition 2x2GB
    GPU: Reuse from old rig
    PSU: Antec TruePower 750W Blue
    HDD: Reuse 500GB
    Case: CM-690II Advanced


    Rollout Plan:

    12months
    Upgrade GPU to run in X-Fire or SLI [depending on the best dual GPU option at the time]

    24months
    Water cool and overclock

    36months
    rebuild

    Thanks to you guys and the guys over at Whirlpool.

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    Posted 11 October 2010 - 07:14 PM

    KK heres the go happening.

    CPU: Intel Core i7 87
    MoBo: ASRock P55-Extreme4
    RAM: OCZ DDR3 PC3-12800 Intel Edition 2x2GB
    GPU: Reuse from old rig
    PSU: Antec TruePower 750W Blue
    HDD: Reuse 500GB
    Case: CM-690II Advanced


    Rollout Plan:

    12months
    Upgrade GPU to run in X-Fire or SLI [depending on the best dual GPU option at the time]

    24months
    Water cool and overclock

    36months
    rebuild

    Thanks to you guys and the guys over at Whirlpool.


    Sounds like a plan. ASRock <3
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    Posted 12 October 2010 - 12:13 AM

    Sounds like a plan. ASRock <3
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    Posted 12 October 2010 - 02:24 PM

    Antec 902 is a great case. My computer has it. Awesome cooling and lots of room for upgrades.

    1200w PSU is overkill for the moment lol. a 1000W is great enough for you. I have the Antec 750w Blue PSU and the only problem I have with it is that Antec did not make the wires long enough to run behind the mobo and out of sight. Kinda weird but great.

    24 GBs of RAM!?!? What do you plan to do? render four 2 hour movies together all at once?? Dude, I have 4 GBs of RAM (planning on getting 2GBs more) and the only time my PC ran out of RAM on a video render was on a video that used over 150 clips. You don't need that much RAM dude. haha

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    Posted 12 October 2010 - 03:05 PM

    Antec 902 is a great case. My computer has it. Awesome cooling and lots of room for upgrades.

    1200w PSU is overkill for the moment lol. a 1000W is great enough for you. I have the Antec 750w Blue PSU and the only problem I have with it is that Antec did not make the wires long enough to run behind the mobo and out of sight. Kinda weird but great.

    24 GBs of RAM!?!? What do you plan to do? render four 2 hour movies together all at once?? Dude, I have 4 GBs of RAM (planning on getting 2GBs more) and the only time my PC ran out of RAM on a video render was on a video that used over 150 clips. You don't need that much RAM dude. haha


    Believe me when I say 1000w isn't excessive these days. I've maxed out my 1000w, and in the process blew a power bar. Okay, maybe it took some provoking. 480s take up ~450w in furmark stock, when overclocked, that number rises. And with the other components, it was enough. Left me wishing that I had bought an Antec 1200w :(

    Edited by Quinn, 12 October 2010 - 03:09 PM.


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    Posted 13 October 2010 - 09:53 AM

    2 last things....

    1 - AMD, problem? currently that is what I'm getting because I can't afford an Intel of the same specs within the time frame I have.




    2 - Still tossing up on cases and I have nailed it down to 3.

    • NZXT Phantom Case Black - LINK - Pros: looks great, Cons: can't see inside
    • Antec Twelve Hundred Cas - LINK - Pros: Fan filters, can see inside, Cons:doesn't look as nice as Phantom
    • Antec LanBoy Air Red - LINK - Pros: up to 15 fans, see everything, Cons: dust everywhere?


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    Posted 13 October 2010 - 01:19 PM

    2 last things....

    1 - AMD, problem? currently that is what I'm getting because I can't afford an Intel of the same specs within the time frame I have.




    2 - Still tossing up on cases and I have nailed it down to 3.

    • NZXT Phantom Case Black - LINK - Pros: looks great, Cons: can't see inside
    • Antec Twelve Hundred Cas - LINK - Pros: Fan filters, can see inside, Cons:doesn't look as nice as Phantom
    • Antec LanBoy Air Red - LINK - Pros: up to 15 fans, see everything, Cons: dust everywhere?


    AMD is good, but ultimately will not live up to an i7. Usually for gaming, you won't notice a huge difference between AMD and Intel. The Antec LanBoy looks nice, but it seems rather small (could just be the pictures). The 1200 is aging, but is still a good case. The Antec Dark Fleet 85 is essentially a refreshed 1200 with some extra features (My current case). Again, I cannot speak for the NZXT case, as I have no personal experience with the company in general (Speak with Peaches, I believe he has a case made by NZXT). Also, it doesn't look (at a glance) like it has as many fans as the other cases.

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    Posted 13 October 2010 - 08:27 PM

    AMD is good, but ultimately will not live up to an i7. Usually for gaming, you won't notice a huge difference between AMD and Intel. The Antec LanBoy looks nice, but it seems rather small (could just be the pictures). The 1200 is aging, but is still a good case. The Antec Dark Fleet 85 is essentially a refreshed 1200 with some extra features (My current case). Again, I cannot speak for the NZXT case, as I have no personal experience with the company in general (Speak with Peaches, I believe he has a case made by NZXT). Also, it doesn't look (at a glance) like it has as many fans as the other cases.


    I think I'll grab the Phantom, while I'll be disappointing that I wont be able to see the fans and everything. I get more and more excited the more I look at it.

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    Posted 14 October 2010 - 04:46 AM

    I think I'll grab the Phantom, while I'll be disappointing that I wont be able to see the fans and everything. I get more and more excited the more I look at it.


    Your choice. Just make sure that it has adequate airflow and you'll be fine.

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    Posted 15 October 2010 - 02:45 PM

    I think I'll grab the Phantom, while I'll be disappointing that I wont be able to see the fans and everything. I get more and more excited the more I look at it.

    AMD is pretty good. Like .00000000001% of the price of an Intel and still comparable. lol

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    Posted 16 October 2010 - 05:29 AM

    AMD is pretty good. Like .00000000001% of the price of an Intel and still comparable. lol


    was talking bout the case hehe

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    Posted 16 October 2010 - 11:06 AM

    was talking bout the case hehe

    ah. my bad. So you're not going with the Antec 902? bummer man. Awesome cooling.