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[halo3]

Hey my friend got the e73 with 1 red ring and so he told me to fix it he found a tut saying that he could use the baker baker method to fix it. So i was interested by it and asked some1 and they said not to do it and i haven't really be able to find much more info about it besdies it possibly invloving heating ur 360 by oven. Anyways i want to help my friend out so, what is the baker baker method, how do you do it, will it work, and if not what is the best way to fix the e73 error besides selling it (not a temp fix)
Ok well if you guys can answer some of my question that will be great, thanks

Edited by halo3, 08 November 2009 - 06:03 PM.

[iBotPeaches]

Its just like the towel method, except more dangerous. It just remelts the connection between the GPU and board which in turn will re-break later on.

You'll need to reflow the board to make a permanent fix. Not to mention doing the oven trick will void your warranty. Just send it in and get a free repair. E74 is covered under the additional 3 year warranty for red rings.

[halo3]

but its the e73 error not the e74 error but thx 4 the info, do u have a link 2 a tut or vid on how to reflow the motherboard?

[iBotPeaches]

I don't think you have the experience to "reflow" it. Since it usually requires an expensive tool.

http://forums.llamma...oreflowyour3url

Here is the oven way ^

(do like 20 degrees less than all of his, since he has an old oven)

[halo3]

I don't think you have the experience to "reflow" it. Since it usually requires an expensive tool.

http://forums.llamma...oreflowyour3url

Here is the oven way ^

(do like 20 degrees less than all of his, since he has an old oven)

thanks but anyways any chance i can also get a link with how to do it without the over hey also whats the differance between this and the baker baker method???
Also i found this E73: General Hardware Error: Ethernet port... this error is caused by a problem with the Ethernet port so do u think replacing the ethernet port would solve the problem?

Edited by halo3, 08 November 2009 - 08:41 PM.

[iBotPeaches]

How do you plan on replacing the port?

Do you have an extra laying around?, and good solder skills?

[halo3]

How do you plan on replacing the port?

Do you have an extra laying around?, and good solder skills?

yes, now also about the post above, its not really expensive, i can get a heat gun on ebay for about $20, in fact i think i have 1 lying around some where and what skill do you need? I think i can wrap some parts in tinfoil and heat up the gpu.... so wow i don't have enough skill to do that... thanks peaches....

[iBotPeaches]

I'm not trying to bash you. I was just saying that one wrong slip of the solder iron, or if you have one that is too hot will rip your mobo apart and then the xbox won't work period.

The problem I doubt is the actual port for the ether-net. I bet there is a wrong connection somewhere near the ether-net port, so open it up and carefully re-touch all the solder ones to reheat them and maybe fix the problem.

[halo3]

I'm not trying to bash you. I was just saying that one wrong slip of the solder iron, or if you have one that is too hot will rip your mobo apart and then the xbox won't work period.

The problem I doubt is the actual port for the ether-net. I bet there is a wrong connection somewhere near the ether-net port, so open it up and carefully re-touch all the solder ones to reheat them and maybe fix the problem.

ok thanks, hmm so what do u think would be like the best order to try to fix it? i was thinking first try the xclamp method, then if that doesnt work try to reflow it with a heat gun, and then replace the ethernet port and yeah i guess ill retouch all the solder ones. So think that is the right order i should try things? like the xclamp and reflow with a heat gun wouldnt kill it as long as i do it right.

[miinaturvat]

ok thanks, hmm so what do u think would be like the best order to try to fix it? i was thinking first try the xclamp method, then if that doesnt work try to reflow it with a heat gun, and then replace the ethernet port and yeah i guess ill retouch all the solder ones. So think that is the right order i should try things? like the xclamp and reflow with a heat gun wouldnt kill it as long as i do it right.

Wait...

The E73 error is an error with I/O hardware, commonly the RJ45 port.

Why would doing an x-clamp fix help?


Just test the RJ45 port with a continuity tester to see if there's a break between the port and the mobo, and if there is, fix it. No need for the x-clamp fix, since it will make no difference to the E73 error...

[halo3]

Wait...

The E73 error is an error with I/O hardware, commonly the RJ45 port.

Why would doing an x-clamp fix help?


Just test the RJ45 port with a continuity tester to see if there's a break between the port and the mobo, and if there is, fix it. No need for the x-clamp fix, since it will make no difference to the E73 error...

yeah it is the RJ45 port is the ethernet port... and the xclamp wouldnt hurt it

Edited by halo3, 10 November 2009 - 07:23 PM.

[Azraelrs]

thanks but anyways any chance i can also get a link with how to do it without the over hey also whats the differance between this and the baker baker method???
Also i found this E73: General Hardware Error: Ethernet port... this error is caused by a problem with the Ethernet port so do u think replacing the ethernet port would solve the problem?

Actually professional repair guy. Anyone who has ever fixed any number of 360s would know that even though on forum sites, it lists E73 as an Ethernet port error, 99% of the time it is actually the Southbridge chip causing the error. A simple homemade heatsink/tensioner on the Southbridge chip after a nice flux run and solder check, tightening slightly more on the GPU facing side will eliminate this issue. I believe maybe if you are going to repair 360s for money the time comes when you should stop reading forums and learn what's really going on... before you start charging people to fix imaginary problems. Today you were giving me a speech on AIM about your impressive repair skills, and 2 months ago you had no clue what was going on. I've only been doing this since before everyone on Ebay thought they could buy an e-book and fix things themselves. Way to show me up son.

Just a suggestion. Not like I know anything at all about 360s.

Edited by Azraelrs, 23 January 2010 - 12:05 AM.